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So why vote? Whats the point?People of California voted, and a majority DIDN'T want Gay Marriage in California. That's it, right? The "will of the people" was heard and acted on,right?Wrong- Supreme...
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kell553 wrote: but aren't Federal Tax changes not Grandfathered as a general rule? Usually, unless it happens to be a Tax Increase. Then the Left makes them retroactive. The issue on this however...
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NoOneFamous wrote:Well done to the Supremes.Why? All they did was "vote present."
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IcelofAngeln wrote:NoOneFamous wrote:Well done to the Supremes. Why? All they did was "vote present." Actually they kicked Prop 8 supporters in the nuts
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They did nothing of the sort. Why oh why do laymen (and too often the moronic press) only look at appellate cases in terms of "who won/lost" and not the actual legal issues decided? SCOTUS ruled that...
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Next step...a Gay couple will marry in California, then move to Arizona and demand their Marriage be recognized by that State (Arizona being a critical State since the 9th Circus has that...
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You may well be right Kell about the next steps, but your random thought is off base.Marriage is not a religious tenet. Marriage pre-dates Christianity and every other religion. Couples have been...
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Fred the Great wrote:Under your suggestion Kell, what would stop a group of gay people setting up their own religious institution and marrying people? At least for me, that's the whole reason it's a...
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At least for me, that's the whole reason it's a desirable idea.This makes no sense Cody.No one (or at least no one credible) is arguing that religious institutions who object to homosexuality should...
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Thank you for the thumbnail history of Marriage, Fred-- but I waouklsd also observe that at least as long and in every society, until relatively quite recently, faggotry was a capital crime, not a...
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Fred, Sorry, for me to put in a response, I'm going to have to drift the thread just a bit. I'm not a conservative. At most I'm a libertarian. As best as I can figure there is no reason for the...
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Thank you for the thumbnail history of Marriage, Fred-- but I waouklsd also observe that at least as long and in every society, until relatively quite recently, faggotry was a capital crime, not a...
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Just drop the government's entire role in this business.Have you thought this one through Cody?Marriage - or legal recognition by the state of a couple's relationship - gives many rights and...
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Cody2 wrote:Fred, Sorry, for me to put in a response, I'm going to have to drift the thread just a bit. I'm not a conservative. At most I'm a libertarian. As best as I can figure there is no reason...
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Under your suggestion Kell, what would stop a group of gay people setting up their own religious institution and marrying people? Not a darn thing...and thats just fine with me. Right up to the point...
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Fred the Great wrote:Just drop the government's entire role in this business.Have you thought this one through Cody?Marriage - or legal recognition by the state of a couple's relationship - gives many...
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I can see your point Kell on a Gay Couple forcing a church to perform the ceremony, but has that ever happened? I have been to a few ceremonies performed by churches that most others would not have...
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Cody2 wrote:Fred the Great wrote:Just drop the government's entire role in this business.Have you thought this one through Cody?Marriage - or legal recognition by the state of a couple's relationship...
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Caden2248 wrote:1. Alright, dropping the governments role means when you die your family does not inherit anything you were involved in the production of. Your bank account, your home, your assets,...
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"I can see your point Kell on a Gay Couple forcing a church to perform the ceremony, but has that ever happened?" Close enough. In one case (quick Google didn't find it, but it was within the last...
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Caden2248 wrote:You typed several paragraphs when all you needed to say was that you believe in freedom, liberty and independence and it would not hurt to have a portion of practical common sense....
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